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Very interesting article, thanks!

At 100TB/mo., pure file delivery, you'd need to be an Enterprise customer. Let me know if this works within your budget.

An interesting proposition - If we take it at face value, $3000 for 100TB works out to be $0.03 per GB. That's pretty high these days. If you are buying downmarket (which is cloudfare like traffic quality) you can get a cdn deal for maybe $0.01 on a 6 month term with these kind of levels, and somewhere around $0.005 for an xc in the us or eu no commitment. Cloudfare should be buying at substantially better rates than these (or at least, they seem to imply it - calling bandwidth free) so it's it seems they have a similar problem as many freemium models - when most of your customers aren't paying you have to really hit the ones that do.



Even at $0.01/GBT, you're still looking at $1,000 a month. His conclusion of "two servers and 100 TBT for $200" seems unlikely to last long either.

> somewhere around $0.005 for an xc in the us or eu no commitment

From whom? Or is this reverse engineered from a fully saturated link?


> His conclusion of "two servers and 100 TBT for $200" seems unlikely to last long either.

A site I'm involved with ended up on Leaseweb rather than a big-name CDN for much the same reason - we have 3 x 100mbit unlimited traffic servers, and all 3 have been pushing an average of 90mbps 24/7 for the past year or so.

It's not quite as smooth and reliable as a proper CDN, but it's an order of magnitude cheaper, and they've never given us any trouble about using too much of their "unlimited" bandwidth.


Not extrapolated from a fully saturated link, no. But I didn't mean to imply that was usage billing.

I was thinking of fdc in amsterdam in the eu on a 10gb unmetered no bw sla, but I also think they offer a similar (slightly higher) deal in denver. I was thinking of somebody else for the US - in SLC - but the name escapes me. If you actually could use the name I'll find it.

I shouldn't have said xc as really they expect you to buy power and space from them. Clearly not what I'd try to run an upmarket video cdn off of, but i would be surprised if people like fdc aren't who CF buys from.


> unmetered no bw sla

Those kinds of offers are generally unusable if the bandwidth matters. This goes back to the oversubscription model, selling the same resource to multiple customers and letting the customers jockey for use, hoping most will never use it enough to catch on.

See this thread for more:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1159276&p...

Note this analysis:

“The FDC offer is a shared 10 Gbps and i believe in another topic was explained, that you're supposed to stay at 1 to 1.5 Gbps usage. Even a pure 10Gbps peering port will cost more then $500,- / month, so a true 10 Gbps for anywhere close to $500,- cannot be expected from any provider worldwide.”

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8153934&pos...

And about the actual usable bandwidth:

“I always found this to be a problem with all FDC locations. So many places have such horrible speeds that no matter what speed they offer, I have a hard time making a good use of it.”

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8258933&pos...

Another comment:

“The server is great. The single-thread transfer speed isn't as much, but it's reasonably passable most of the time, considering the server cost. But I've been seeing some severe routing problems, with 5-10% of the net simply being unroutable much of the time, as well as intermittent packet loss. Due to this, the overall fail rate of this server is about 10x that of other servers I have in NL.”

If you're running an ad supported viral image host and can fit your popular content in RAM, this kind of thing may be acceptable, though in the long run users will tend to migrate to image hosts that serve their memes quickly.

TL;DR: Not all bandwidth is equal. You get what you pay for and what your provider pays for.




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